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Weirdest Oil Change Proceedure Ever!

OK...since I just did mine you guys are gonna have to make believe there is nasty break in oil oozing out.
First you have to drop the plastic protector with a #10 socket (God help us if we purchase skid plates :evil: )




Then you pull those 2 engine cap screws with a #10 wrench


Then you pull the cork on the front oil tank


Now the oil filter cover...which has a arrow on it that I cannot figure out yet because it was pointing towards the back of the bike when I pulled it. You would think it would point UP or something...ohh well :roll:


Insert new filter...mine was filthy and lots of metal shards...thanks Moto Man! :arrow:
Re-assemble and add 1.4 quarts into the forward oil tank.


Be sure to replace the o-ring on the inside of the oil filter cover at least every other oil-change (about 2$ from Yamaha). Many people have found their cover to leek if this is not done.

NOW add .4 quarts to the clutch cover :evil:


And run for 3 minutes and double check...which you can't see anything because they have that same dumb dipstick that they use on the 400's :(

Weird!
 

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Originally posted by armoks
Just hope the aftermarket will put either two slots or one long slot so you can loosen those two bolts without dropping the skid :eek:
I thought about that BUT...where would all the oil go?...<blech> :evil:
 

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I did my first oil change this weekend.

1. yes little metal crap in the oil.

2. took 200ml extra to read on the dip stick.

Now with the 200ml extra it reads about 1/2 way up the stick. Yes i let warm up blah, blah, Blah, blah. Just thought some people should now ..... Recheck oil after filling ....... might need more. to those people with the tranny whine did you guys double check oil level? I found all peple complaining of the whine ALL posted that they changed their oil then had the whine.

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Originally posted by benltr
what oil u recommend for 3 first oil change? the suzuki? or any orther brand? synthetic or not, help me. DO u put different oil in clutch cover then in the orther tank. Thanx
According to the Moto Man you should use a petroleum based product for the break in. Then you can use any oil (synthetic or not) you choose. I used Maxima 10-40 for the first oil change and will probably do another couple during the break in (20 hrs.). After that I'm thinking Royal Purple. :)
 

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While going thru the "mandated" book review with my dealer yesterday, I asked about oil. He said Suzuki is coming out with a true synthetic for their bikes and quads.

Probably outrageously high priced.

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YUP. I had to add the same extra 200ml . To tell you the truth I was a little worried about that, but have not had any trouble, no noise, whines etc? Good thinking about that possibly being a clue to the whine trouble some have had.


Originally posted by FUELATV
I used golden spectro 10-40. Same oil in the case and oil tank. Anyone else have the issue with not being able to read on the dip stick? I had to add 200ml extra to read the level on the dip stick.


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Re: synthetic

Originally posted by racer64
Mobil synthetic made my clutch slip, I drained it back out and used golden specro 10-40 and have no problems
Full Synthetic is not what you want to use. If it has the energy conserving label on it it has Moly in it and that is what makes it slip. As long as it doesn't have the energy conserving label you should be OK.

This link explains how to read the API donut:

http://www.chevron.ca/ProductsServices/Ret...torOilLabel.htm
 

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I'm using Valvoline 4 stroke 10w-40, also i didn't use the extra 200ml and it showed up on the dip stick, but it was hard because the new oil was really clear.
 

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I used Amsoil https://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/mcf.aspx Its the only oil that guarantees your motor for damage due to lack of lubrication. Its 100% synthetic and formulated just for bikes with gear boxes.
 

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this guy at my local shop he recommend 20-50 for summer because of heat down here and heavy load. what do you think.

Used golden spectro 10-40 and worked great. didn't have it yesterday so bought maxum sinthetic-blend 20-50.

in your opinion keep golden spectro or change oil with 20-50 sinthetic blend for summer??

will change oil this week probably thanks.
 

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I run a 20/50 blend and have had any problems. The only time I got whining was when the dealer serviced my bike when I had it in for the recall. NEVER again will they touch it, they couldn't even do the one thing I asked and fill the coolant res. Then what ever oil they used wasen't very good. Not to mention my bike was filthy when I got it back(Sorry I'm done ranting).
 

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I run a 20/50 blend and have had any problems. The only time I got whining was when the dealer serviced my bike when I had it in for the recall. NEVER again will they touch it, they couldn't even do the one thing I asked and fill the coolant res. Then what ever oil they used wasen't very good. Not to mention my bike was filthy when I got it back(Sorry I'm done ranting).
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What shop did you go through?
 
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