[tfs411]

I ran 20 inch sandstars at the dunes a few weeks ago and I wasn't pulling in fifth, even with the 13 tooth front sprocket. I'm running no lid, no sparky and the cherry bomb. I was hauling ass in the drags through fourth and could pull a little bit on the hardpack in fifth, but in the soft stuff fifth was useless.

 

[SandJunkie]

I ran 20 inch sandstars at the dunes a few weeks ago and I wasn't pulling in fifth, even with the 13 tooth front sprocket. I'm running no lid, no sparky and the cherry bomb. I was hauling ass in the drags through fourth and could pull a little bit on the hardpack in fifth, but in the soft stuff fifth was useless.
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Sandstars you say?... :lol:

I know THAT feeling :angry:
Do yourself a HUGE favor and get rid of those...and stay away from molded tires on all future purchases...you will be mucho happier

 

[fatv]

Whats the easies way to slow your bike down ...... add a set of sand stars.


FUELATV

 

[onesavage]

ok does any one make a custom sand tire that has a v shape like the sand skate II's?

 

[fatv]

ok does any one make a custom sand tire that has a v shape like the sand skate II's?
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Well IMO you really dont need a V-cup paddle. The 6 cup hualer will slide just as good, and be faster. The best v-cup paddle will be a SSI comp cut. I have not ridden these, but EVERYONE who has loves them. They are ALOT of money though.


FUELATV

 

[OKTRX450R]

Well IMO you really dont need a V-cup paddle. The 6 cup hualer will slide just as good, and be faster. The best v-cup paddle will be a SSI comp cut. I have not ridden these, but EVERYONE who has loves them. They are ALOT of money though.
FUELATV
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I disagree...honestly until you ride the SSI's I would be very cautious comparing them to any other tires (I know you stated you had not ridden them)...the SSI's are by far the best handling tire I have ever ridden and they are much quicker then you would think...you are correct, they are ALOT of money.

I have not performed this myself but I have it from a very good source on equal bikes/riders the SSI's are 1/2 bike slower then the infamous 6 paddle Brats! That is very, very fast for a V blade paddle. I wonder how the ST Edges would compare???

Dang Steve, I am just going to have to send you all the tires I own for testing!

 

[fatv]

Rob .... do you think the SSI slide and handle better then the 6 cup haulers? I have no doubt about the actual speed. I was speaking in regaurds to the turning not the speed. Of course rim size, width and tire pressure come into play. I know the SSI is a larger tire. Therefor it gets more floatation. For me if a tire slides anymore then the 6 cup hauler the bike will be way too loose. But again that is just my opinion. I think we can sum this up ......

SSI comp cut
6 and 9 cup Paddla brat comp cut
6 cup hauler
9 cup glidder

are the best paddles out there. What ones are the fasted, best and most turnable? the first one will be awnsered and the last two will be up to the rider.


FUELATV

 

[OKTRX450R]

Yes, I really do think they handle better (I am comparing them to 7 paddle haulers and 6 paddle Extremes)...they are very strange tires. When I run the 6 paddle Extremes I can not keep the front end on the ground...with the SSI's, I actually have to work a little to get the front end in the air but while dragging I am beating guys on better built machines with haulers???

Turning and duning characteristics they are just the lazy man's tire...they do everything for you but are very up to par when duning aggressively too. I swear they are the strangest tire I have ever seen.

All this is great stuff, but in all actuallity we are all giving our opinions and none of us are right and none of us are wrong...just how we interpret the data. You might ride the SSIs and hate them...

I will send them out to you in the late Fall and let you run them...

Fuel, excellent summation of the tires and the rider...

Sorry to hijack the thread into a sand tire thread....

 

[onesavage]

yeah i guess i am at fault also for getting this thread hijacked and turned into a sand tire thread. maybe those killer moderaters and whoever else edit the site will clean it all up and move our sand tire questions, comments, and opinions to the write spot. I thank the both of you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge and experience's with me. well for now i will run what i have until further review and money permits different. thanks again you guys are great.

 

[Kwad Gawd]

I live in Ohio, I work for an ATV racing magazine & I've never even seen a sand tire in person.
What's wrong with the ITP Sand Stars? Heavy? I know the owner... I'll have to tell him people think they're heavy so maybe he can lighten them in the future.

 

[fatv]

Heavy ..... and too much paddle.

FUELATV

 

[MXQuadRacer]

yeah i guess i am at fault also for getting this thread hijacked and turned into a sand tire thread. maybe those killer moderaters and whoever else edit the site will clean it all up and move our sand tire questions, comments, and opinions to the write spot.[/b]

I almost skipped over the gearing thread, but something kept making me go back and read more

Generally once I see that Junkie and Fuel get posting back and forth, I have an immediate reaction to crack open the moderator tools It's always awesome information, just sadly never in the right spot hehe

 

[fatv]

Sorry ..... OKTRX and i went off on a good one. I think OKTRX, Junkie and i have had this sam exact conversation 10 times. Tire shoot out is next no doubt.


FUELATV

 

[OKTRX450R]

Thanks for splitting off MX...I planned to do this today but you already know I am a slacker!

Yea, Fuel, Junkie and I must really love these topics! :lol:

OneSavage, I hope in all our blabbering you took away that yes there are custom V shaped tires much better then the SSII. The SSI in either play cut or comp cut and the ST Edges IMO are all better options then the SSII.

 

[fatv]

or sand sharks ,,,,, or sand stars,,,,,,, other molded v-shaped paddles.


FUELATV

 

[SandJunkie]

You guys said it all...should I start to hijaak the thread NOW?..or later?...

 

[BCGIrish]

I think it's okay to derail this thing now. It has been informative long enough.

 

[SandJunkie]

:lol:

Permission to hijaak this thread has officially been given

 

[Clone]

Heavy ..... and too much paddle.

FUELATV
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Can I join the paddle party?

Too much paddle with what width of rims? That affects things a lot. I ran SS's a long time ago on 10X10's(was younger and really stupid then ) and would blow the tires right off with my built kfx. Got rid of them along time ago as well . Now I have a set of SS's for backups on 10X8 rims and they seem to work pretty good. Still heavy? YES! But the hookup is adequate now. I do run 21X12-8 7 paddle haulers(nanco carcass) and absolutely love them. They do everything great! The hook up on the haulers seems to stay pretty consistant which is nice. The SS's hookup seems to really change a lot depending on the condition of the sand(wet or dry). OKTRX knows I'm jealous of his brats, but there is no way I'm going to try them because I'm afraid that I will be trying to find the $300-400 to buy them after the ride

 

[SandJunkie]

Don't you just hate that?

Everytime I come home from riding I find there's something else I need...usually in the $300 to $500 dollar range...of course... :angry: