[slief]

There seems to be another FI controller out for the LTR and I have never heard of this one.
There is one for sale on Ebay: Seach for item: 4632532978

Here is there website which does not state anything about the LTR but apparently they do have a controller for it.
http://www.dobeckperformance.com/whatsnew/

Who are they and is this any different than the Trinity one that goes between the injectors? From what I can see, they are very similar.

 

[tlronny]

Yes it is similar to the Trinity version and Techlusion have been making controllers for road bikes for years.
Not as good as a PC but not as dear either.

 

[slief]

When you say PC, I assume you are talking about Power Commander??? I was looking at their installation instructions and it looks like the Power Commander unit works just like the Trinity and the Dubeck in that they all seem to plug in between the injectors and the computer and just trick the injectors into increasing fuel delivery. Is that not the case?

 

[fatv]

i am sure dobeck makes trinity, HFM and others controllers. Each will have their own map installed.


WWW.FUELATV.COM

 

[AL Elks]

Personally I feel the only reliable option right now is going to be the Yosi FIMAK and PIM.

You can actually input the map and adjust in a broad range rather than just a few lights. Lights are nice but to tune properly takes more. It also takes a wide band oxygen sensor in order to tune a fuel injection properly (or at least that's what I've learned so far in my research).

 

[tlronny]

The PC also has a USB port for map changes as well

 

[slief]

Al Elks,
I am with you! It seems to me that adding more fuel and not addressing the ignition is a problem. The PIM will be simple and it would seem to me that Yoshi would address iginition in conjunction with fuel. Not to mention that I have yet to hear of one person that has felt as though the Trinity gave them more power. If anything it was to the contrary. I am not keen to tricking the system into adding more fuel without adressing the ignition as well. Seems like a bandaid approach when it come to EFI. Especially after reading that it would appear that the cherry bomb works fine on its own and the bikes are not lean after all.

 

[dan85]

From a very reliable source..... there is a reason why yoshimura helped design this machine. Don't u all think that if u put two and two together that will tell what products are going to be the best for this thing. Say theres a problem after u use one of those other controllers. Suzuki won't do anything except charge and arm and a leg. They will make sure there is no problems with the Yoshi stuff. Both Suzuki and Yoshi can't have that happen. They have to much on the line. I guess in the long run it all comes down to money. All these other controllers r gonna be cheaper than the Yosh. Yosh knows their product is the best, thats why they charge so much. Its almost like ya get what ya pay for. Sorry i can't tell where i heard all this from. Soon i will be able to.

 

[NWltr450]

Is this the same source that said Yosh was going to recall their pipes?

 

[Baracudaaa]

Seems to me that if you are going to completely remap your fuel curves, it would be very wise to do it on a dyno instead of trying to do it by guessing??? Unless you are a pro, it seems like it would be easy to actually dial OUT power without having dyno data to back it up. Just my $.02

 

[Luckiduc13]

Originally posted by NWltr450
Is this the same source that said Yosh was going to recall their pipes?

They didnt recall but halted production and all further shipments to exaimine the end cap and baffle issue!

 

[AL Elks]

Originally posted by Baracudaaa
Seems to me that if you are going to completely remap your fuel curves, it would be very wise to do it on a dyno instead of trying to do it by guessing??? Unless you are a pro, it seems like it would be easy to actually dial OUT power without having dyno data to back it up. Just my $.02

You're right however that's why I plan on purchasing a wideband oxygen sensor. That way I can tune it properly without a dyno.

Here's a link to the one I'm looking at purchasing. Actually the link is the video page. You can click on the left hand side to get to the sensor. Pretty interesting stuff.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/resources/lm101.php

 

[armoks]

I have an LM1 GREAT piece of equiptment when I created maps for dales I used it extensively. from what I'm seeing, NO programer so far that is the process of helping us out will let you change the ignition curves. The Dales FI system was flawed but you could get down and adjust EVERYTHING! I hope either the yosh or the PC system will let you adjust that but the PC system looks like you will just be able to change out the fuel curves ONLY. guess we will have to see what comes out.

 

[jbfoco]

innovate makes very quality parts, i am actually pulling mine off my car to do the same thing.