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ok im really wanting a ltr50 n i figured u guys would be able to awnser my question i race gncc and if i get a ltr thats wat i will use it for gncc and trail riding i was just wondering i know that the ltr450 is wide but is it too wide for gncc will it be able to squeze between the tighter tree sections or is it too wide ?? is it possible to race gncc on a ltr plz tell me quick if it will fit on a gncc cource and it will fit between the trees im gonna get one thursday
 

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Yokley is racing a stock a arm and stock axle ltr450. So it should be fine, if you ever find yourself on a tight course you can always flip the rims to narrow it up some.
 

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I have r450 no problems trail riding planning on entering a couple gncc races NC morgantown Mar26
I just Flipped rims to the inside and go thru all tight wood trails in MD.

Anyone no what Mods you need to race Gncc like kill switch ect.???
 

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What is the offset of flipped wheels?
Will 4+1 and 5+4 Hipers work?
47 is my max for local Hare Scrambles
 

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Yokley is racing a stock a arm and stock axle ltr450. So it should be fine, if you ever find yourself on a tight course you can always flip the rims to narrow it up some.
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Yoke's bike isn't stock width, he rode it at two GNCCs early this season w/ stock A Arms because they were both wide tracks. He still had it narrowed a bit with 4+1 front wheels and LTZ rear hubs.

Since then he has Roll long travel A Arms that bring his front in to around 47" and the rear is 48" I believe.
So, the answer to your question: YES - the LTR is too wide for most GNCC tracks in stock form. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that you'll be getting hung up in tight spots.

I recommed going to a GNCC before you race one.
 

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Yoke's bike isn't stock width, he rode it at two GNCCs early this season w/ stock A Arms because they were both wide tracks. He still had it narrowed a bit with 4+1 front wheels and LTZ rear hubs.
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He raced the first couple wide tracks on the LTR and then went back to the Z for the narrow tracks until Roll Design got their A-arms done.

GT Thunder has a package that has A-arms, linkage and will rebuild your stock shocks for $1195. He said with Hiper 4:1 rims the front will be 46.5" wide and with Douglas 4:1 rims it will be 46" wide. Then you just need a -2" rear axle and you should be clear. B)
 

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Yokley is 46.5" width front and rear, The axle is aftermarket. 48" is just too wide. I know Burgard is making -1 arms too. My LTR should be xc ready in the next couple weeks. I am just deciding which shocks to go with.
 

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Why on earth would you buy a wide quad if you plan on taking it GNCC racing? There are much better choices.
 

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ok im really wanting a ltr50 n i figured u guys would be able to awnser my question i race gncc and if i get a ltr thats wat i will use it for gncc and trail riding i was just wondering i know that the ltr450 is wide but is it too wide for gncc will it be able to squeze between the tighter tree sections or is it too wide ?? is it possible to race gncc on a ltr plz tell me quick if it will fit on a gncc cource and it will fit between the trees im gonna get one thursday
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wat is gncc? i live in south-africa were we race flat track enduro and inland
 

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Why on earth would you buy a wide quad if you plan on taking it GNCC racing? There are much better choices.
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Some people prefer to ride Suzuki!!!


Why would someone take a Honda or Yamaha and plan to take it MX racing?
 

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True
 

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Why on earth would you buy a wide quad if you plan on taking it GNCC racing? There are much better choices.
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Well not trying to piss anyone off, but here is my analysis:

I guess you could ask a person who only rides dunes why they would buy a MX bike, when a Raptor 700R may be a better duner? Why a guy races an Outlaw in the WORCS program, or why all Baja riders don't ride DS650's? It's generally because if they are going to spend 7 to 8K on a quad, most people buy whatever is the hotest new bike to have. I remeber seeing a ton of 04 YFZ's for sale in 05 because it was the bike to have in 04 but they intended to only trail ride with it! Only to find out it was too small, uncomfortable, no reverse, hard thumb throttle, and a terribly hard MX seat. Well it'sa race bike, but even though it didn't suit their needs they still bought it! They only reason they bought it was they had to have the hot new bike and be seen on it. People are concerned with image more then function, why else is there so many 5 ft. tall women driving Hummers? Okay, I'm off my soapbox sorry...so to answer your question.
People buy what appeals to them at that moment for whatever reason it may be. End of story!
 

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your right though... but I think i made a mistake, I bought my ltr for harescrambles, and ill be doing a gncc and ama national race this year, i hope i can squeeze through spots... but i bought my ltr because i wanted to start racing MX also. i figured it wasnt going to be to wide.. but i dont know we'll find out.
 

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your right though... but I think i made a mistake, I bought my ltr for harescrambles, and ill be doing a gncc and ama national race this year, i hope i can squeeze through spots... but i bought my ltr because i wanted to start racing MX also. i figured it wasnt going to be to wide.. but i dont know we'll find out.[/b]
With the right wheels, you can get it to 48. You can fit through anything at 48. A stock Predator is 47.5 and they don't worry.
 

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just so you know i finished machining my stock hubs today and got them on the quad and with 3+6 offset wheels i got my rear end down to 46.25" in the rear and like i said before its 47" in the front[/b]
Do you have a pic of the machined hub?
 

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i put it on the quad already, i can get yours done for you if you wanted. but you will have to flip the hub around backwards and the only way i got it to come out right is with 3+6 offset wheels otherwise it made it too narrow. if you had these with 5+4 offset wheels you could turn them around and the rear would be around 47" to 47.5".
 

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Yokley is racing a stock a arm and stock axle ltr450. So it should be fine, if you ever find yourself on a tight course you can always flip the rims to narrow it up some.[/b]
hes not running the stock arms cuz he uses roll arms
 
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