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Why did Suzuki lie? The top 3 quads, LTR, TRX and YFZ are all very close in terms of performance(speed). As far as handling, get some +2's and an axle and you're still under the price of the LTR with the same great handling.
Wasn't this quad supposed to be some sort of ATV breakthrough???
Gust and Jones were supposed to race them stock, now they have Fox shocks and Yoshi exhausts, who knows what else, that's not stock.
Don't get me wrong it looks like a nice piece and I am looking to maybe buy one, but lose the hype and give us the straight scoop.
 

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Suzuki didn't lie at all...they honestly didn't say anything about how Doug or Jeremiah would be racing them? All of the rumors going around, were simply rumors - nothing more. You have to expect rumors to fly when new highly anticipated models are soon to be released. As it is, you still do not need longer a-arms, or any for that matter unless you are running either Pro-production at nationals, and maybe the pro-am production class at nationals. Those shocks really are amazing for a stock quad...no one can deny that. Stock yfz/450r suspension can't hold a candle to them (coming from a long-time Honda rider).

Another thing...I'm not seing how you could buy a 1200$ front end and a 900$ rear end to match the Suzuki's suspension and still be under the price of an LTR? I'm seing LTR's around here go for 7500$ out-the-door...while 06 450r's and YFZ's are going for 7000$ out-the-door. 500$ for a just-released quad, that people are going crazy for is not bad at all. There's no way you can get a full suspension for a YFZ and the price of the quad still be under that 7500$?

Lastly...EFI - That alone puts the 500$ price difference into the equation for me. Next year, when Yamaha and Honda have their fuel-injection units, then the three will be VERY comparable stock. But bang for your buck, Suzuki is simply ahead right now. Another 2-3 years down the road, I'm sure the outlook will be different as market trends change, but as for right now - they really are holding the lead.
 

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+2's for $1200?
$900 for an axle?
Where are you getting your prices?
Lets not start bragging about the fuel injection either, until it proves itself.
Where I live, LTR's are going for $7950 OTD and TRX's are $6400 OTD
Plenty of money for a-arms and an axle, and still have Honda reliability.
Yet, I'm still think of buying this LTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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If you don't like it don't buy one, I don't think anyone is in the mood to argue 450r vs r450.

He said 1200 for the front end, meaning longer a arms, and better shocks. Same for the $900 rear. Many yfz owners that have/had very expensive bikes "15,000+" say the ltr handles just as good if not better in stock trim.
 

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Who said I was arguing? I was thinking of selling my TRX and buying the LTR.
That part about the guys with 15k YFZ's is just propaganda, you don't really KNOW these people. Just like Gust racing one in stock trim, rumors, I guess.

I just though I would get the straight scoop here about the quad. Compared to the TRX and YFZ, is it good or is it GREAT. I have one of those 15k TRX's. I know I would only get between 7 and 8 for it. Is the LTR worth losing that much money? Probably not.
 

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Honestly I would hate to add up what is in my TRX $$ wise...the factory suspension on the LTR is not quite as good as my LSR DC4/Outlaw - Custom Axis setup but is definitely good enough to not warrant the additional $5K in suspension mods. In other words, the performance increase in the aftermarket setup is not worth the $$ because the margin is not very large.

Our LTR has the baffle removed, air box lid removed, and Cherry installed: I feel the motor is stronger then my TRX was after the HRC kit and full exhaust. It is that strong feeling to me. I can not really compare them now do to all the other mods on my TRX. How much is left for the LTR? Not sure, I will not increase compression on the piston as I want to stick with pump gas...cams, full exhaust, intake mods, etc...the LTR seems so strong now I am not sure how much you can gain.

I am very happy with our LTR...now, would I sell my Honda to buy another LTR...probably not. I already have the $$ invested and it is a sunk cost now and I would only lose money on the deal. Sink another $10K in the LTR and will it perform better then my current TRX? In my opinion NO.

I think the EFI is the only thing left untouched above...the throttle response is really that good to me. My TRX has been dyno (A/F meter) tuned all along the way and the LTR is that much better.

I just sent off a CRF carb to be bored to 43mm for the TRX so I will see how the throttle response of it compares to the LTR.

That is pretty much the most unbiased report I can give you and you will notice I said I would not sell my current TRX to get an LTR...I am just fortunate to have both!
 
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