i called hmf today to find out if they indeed had a LTR450 in their possession ? they told me no and didn't have an ETA when they were going to get one. i also called IMS to see if they had a LTR450 and they told me no and no ETA. he also told me they only new of 5 LTR450'S that was in the states and Doug Gust had 2 of them and Jeramia Jones had 2 .Ims wasn't for sure who had the 5th one. its probably LTR450HQ ? he's holding out on us.