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okay, not always, but sometimes when Im goin for a jump, i think my seats bustin me n the ass sending me sky high holding on to my handlebars for my life!!!( which has resulted in 2 or 3 painful landings when my feet didnt (land) back on the pegs, (nerfs got in today), ) anyways, this is really getting old...do i need to adjust my rear shocks for me?(im 150lbs 5'11") or am I just not jumping correctly??(if thats even possible) ill admit it. before my 450, i rode the honda utility atv out at gpas, and when i got my 450 we went ridin saw a possible jump, floored it and pulled up slightly at the top of the hill and soared! lol. but like i said sometimes i end up goin flying off the quad. Am I not standing up enough?(i think I am tho), or what??




:blush: Parker
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Slow the rebound on your rear shock.
Slow the rebound on your rear shock.
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how do I do that? I can rebuild you a motor, but I couldnt adjust or probably even install a shock if my life depended on it.
how do I do that? I can rebuild you a motor, but I couldnt adjust or probably even install a shock if my life depended on it.
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check the manual --- it goes into decent detail about setting the rebound and compression.
the re-bound adj. is on the side of the shock at the bottom -- you will back it out some to slow the rebound down. the smartest thing to do is... make small adj. then try it out -- over the same area/jump -- see the way it changes...then make it comfortable for you.
Am I not standing up enough?(i think I am tho), or what??
:blush: Parker
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It sounds like your not standing up at all. I would try standing up more first.
you may be letting off the gas right before you take off too! that would pitch the front end down on a jump
I have found that if you "bounce" down and lift just before you hit the lip of the jump? You preload the shock and the quad tends to act more like a motorcycle (Front end up...ass end down) and I land a hell of alot nicer...kids taught me that trick...you should give it a try...it's almost like your trying to jump out of the quad but you can't because it follows you...works pretty cool for me anyways

My $.02 :D
thanks for all the advice! Im gonna try all the suggestions, (standing up even more, and then the 'bounce' down, then worse case, im gonna fiddle with my shocks.


thanks, Parker
It could also be the kind of jump your going off of. Some just kick the back up. We call those "dog launchers" in our prerunners down in Baja.
also if you get in the air and it dose that u can get on the gas it will bring the Front end up some.
For such a huge guy, Joe Byrd's riding style is ideal. If you can mimic this position when you're jumping, you'll be well on your way to a smooth launch



Also, some racers stay full throttle up the launch then chop (let off) the throttle at the last second to keep from nosing high. Others stay smooth, and use the rear brakes/throttle to level jump height out. Most pros avoid using the front brakes to drop the front end lower as once their stopped, it's impossible to get them going again. If you lock the rears the front will drop, but if it drops too much you can just hit the throttle again to get the nose back up.

If you're racing, you generally want to avoid preloading as staying low is the fastest method. A few riders like Austin Wilson even use the pre-load method REALLY late into the launch to a point where your shocks only compress and don't have a chance to rebound, he just compensates for the lack of height with extra throttle (overall providing a faster/quick jump). If you're not racing and only looking to ride smooth, preload away :p

Practice makes perfect, really just ride as much as possible and you'll learn new techniques



Here's a video with Austin using the anti-preload method to stay low, similar method used by our two-wheeled counterparts. His part cuts in about 30 seconds into the video

http://media.putfile.com/village-62
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A couple things to add, you won't be able to tell that hitting the gas or rear brakes work until you hit a decent sized jump. Second of all, make sure you use the clutch when hitting the brakes. Stalling in the air won't be fun. ;-)
first off, is it bouncing you off in the air? or when you land? If it's in the air you aren't pre loading enough, if it's on landing, adjust the rebound.
first off, is it bouncing you off in the air? or when you land? If it's in the air you aren't pre loading enough, if it's on landing, adjust the rebound.
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its when im in the air, like once i leave the jump (sometimes), i go flying sky high holding on to the handle bars for dear life!

btw, preloading,... :huh: i know what it is, but in real life, how to you go about doing that? (first real quad ever owned, used to ride utility atvs at gpaslol, I know you hold back on the analog then whip it forward on PS2, but i cant locate a controller anywhere on the r450? :p
its when im in the air, like once i leave the jump (sometimes), i go flying sky high holding on to the handle bars for dear life!

btw, preloading,... :huh: i know what it is, but in real life, how to you go about doing that? (first real quad ever owned, used to ride utility atvs at gpaslol, I know you hold back on the analog then whip it forward on PS2, but i cant locate a controller anywhere on the r450? :p
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Preloading is simply loading the springs so they compress and rebound out at a force just as you're leaving the face of a jump. The unloading spring forces the ATV higher into the air

Basically jump/force all of your weight down on your shocks, and time it so the shock rebounds at the right time. Sounds alot trickier than it is, just work at it and you'll get the timing
Preloading is simply loading the springs so they compress and rebound out at a force just as you're leaving the face of a jump. The unloading spring forces the ATV higher into the air

Basically jump/force all of your weight down on your shocks, and time it so the shock rebounds at the right time. Sounds alot trickier than it is, just work at it and you'll get the timing
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:blush: so force all your weight down by literally bouncing my 'ass' down on the seat, or by like 'jumping' if you will my weight down onto the pegs with my feet. ( i dont mean literally jumping onto the pegs, but u kno what i mean)
Maybe someone could do a write up on take jumps. :) I would but you don't find many 60 foot table tops in the desert.
:blush: so force all your weight down by literally bouncing my 'ass' down on the seat, or by like 'jumping' if you will my weight down onto the pegs with my feet. ( i dont mean literally jumping onto the pegs, but u kno what i mean)
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Have to be off the seat when you jump unless you are purposely trying to style out a sitting jump (which are damn hard on big gaps, you generally get bucked up into a standing position anyway). Go back to the style Byrd is using on his launch, picture running up to the face of a jump in that position, then forcing down on the pegs...in result you will be alot closer to sitting down than the position he has but should still not be touching the seat. You will most likely need some arm work in there to get the front end to preload as well, but your suspension is already wanting to "pack" as you go up the face of a jump.

All you can do is practice basically...just work on the motion and you will notice a definite change in the way you jump. Again - I recommend as little preload as possible IF you are racing, it's the opposite way of staying low but can give stylized jumps
what are doing trying to seat hop all the jumps
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