[armoks]

coming off of a dale I really hate the junk thats ont the handlebars like the light switch/ kill button and the parking break mess. SOO I ordered a start button in the form of of an oll shutoff from a dirtbike and and ASV Pro clutch lever. Im going to use a tehter for a kill switch and just run lights off the key(since im going to run trailtech HIDs that I can easily take off when MXing. my only problem is to what to do about the "Choke" lever/cable. I went out today with teh temps in the 30's and it fired right up but I don't want to be stuck without one when its needed. any ideas guys?


BTW once everything is in I'll do pics and a write up on what and how to do these mods.

 

[r450racing]

The lever on the left side is not a choke lever but an "idle advance". Remember this quad is EFI so it doesn't need a choke. I also own and ride a 2002 Suzuki TL1000R (EFI) and we advance the idle even higher and use the lever as a cruise control for interstate riding.

r450racing

 

[armoks]

yea on the dales they had an automatic one that was a stepper. Is the one on these machines needed? if I can get away with it i'll just remove it completely.

 

[r450racing]

My experience with this setup on street bikes is that it isn't needed for starting the bike cold. I have found on my R450 that it is beneficial both under hot start conditions ie:killing it going into a turn too hot etc. and when running on the track in general as the idle isn't so low and the off throttle/on throttle transition is smoother. What is nice is to flip it back up when not in race conditions so the idle is back down.

We utililize it on the TL1000r on the race track for the same reason.

r450racing

 

[armoks]

I see that all it does is to open the flapper on the throttle a little bit, might have to try a hot start lever to see if it works or just touch the gas a little tinny bit while trying to start it when needed. Im also changing my front break lines over to streamline +3 Z400 steal braided.

I also talked to my suspention guy today and he got my shocks today and said things are looking VERY promising of what he can do with them we will see!!

Im going to use the FEUL atv warning light setup also :?

 

[r450racing]

A hot start lever might be the right route to go. I have tryed the "throttle a tinny bit" but it is too sensitive.

r450racing

 

[armoks]

Here ya go junks gone still haven't figured out a way for that idle cable though

 

[armoks]

almost ready for Budds! Just waiting on the shocks to get back and the pipe to get here!

 

[BCGIrish]

That looks really clean, nice job

 

[MXQuadRacer]

I hate clutter, and when it comes to handlebars that has to be my #1 pet peeve. Looks like you did a damn good job cleaning up, let us know if any ideas come on the relocation.

 

[armoks]

the little red button is for a KX killl button thats my new starter and the teather thats next to the handlebar clamp is my new on off switch I wired it to the white wire from the coil. For headlights they will come on with the key but I only will have high beams. A set of trail techs will be all thats needed when i need to see at night. I'll be making brackets soon either on the bars or down under where the original headlight bracket used to be.

 

[jason14x]

So what did you do did you clip the whole switch assy? If I got this down right you would haveto take the wires to the starter button and wire them to the new button. Then tie toghether the two orange wires that go to the on off switch am i right so far? After that you ran the wire for the kill switch back to the white wire near the subframe . Whatd did you do with the headlight wires? jut curious I dont like hacking apart harnesses do if there is a neat clean way to do it just wanna know !!! Thanks!

Jason

 

[armoks]

I just pitched it, I had it in a million pieces taking it apart. i just spliced the wires from the start button to that red button, and spliced the on/off switch wires together. I ran the teather to the white wire coming off the coil on the right side of the quad (its right behind the upper motor mount) and the ground to one of the bolts on the stearing stem.

For headlights since I won't need a high and low beam so I just spliced the high beam wires together so they will always be on when the key is on the headlight setting.

the cable for the idle advance is just stuffed under the plasic so its out of he way.

 

[jfarrar30]

i scrapped my switches today too.what a relief.got rid of the housing the front brake light switch and the clutch safety switch.i removed that whole section of he harness.i did it without cutting any wires too.where he harness plugs into the main harness i pulled all the wires out of the plug itself.if you use something small you can unclip each wire from the plastic clip.i then got wires with the same clips(i think from an old 300 ex harness i had) and plugged them into the connctor in the appropriate spots i need.i only kept the start button and made a jumper for the on off switch.no lights those in the connector i coverd with silicon.so atleast i will be able to put it back to stock if the need be without any spliced wires.just thought i would give you guys an idea of how to do itfor those of you that dont like to cut wires

 

[armoks]

ASV lever installed the other day VERY NICE and SMOOTH! Now I need my sshocks to get back so I can ride it

 

[armoks]

also installed a EHS airbox mod very nice and well designed

 

[FastA$$ZRider]

Sweet, now i don't need all that stupid stuff on my bars.

 

[Freeflow]

So what did you do did you clip the whole switch assy? If I got this down right you would haveto take the wires to the starter button and wire them to the new button. Then tie toghether the two orange wires that go to the on off switch am i right so far? After that you ran the wire for the kill switch back to the white wire near the subframe . Whatd did you do with the headlight wires? jut curious I dont like hacking apart harnesses do if there is a neat clean way to do it just wanna know !!! Thanks!
Jason
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Hi Guys,

This might be an old thread, might be usefull to someone out there in La-La-Land. Just putting in my 5c worth:

Spent my afternoon removing the wiring harness to look at posibilities of removing all the clutter on the handlebar. While doing that i decided to draw up a wiring diagram. Anyone interested or are all you guys techie enough to do it without a diagram? It is in Ecell. Give me access to a FTP and i can dump it there.

My intention is to remove the entire harness as i do not want to butcher the OEM one, get new connectors and make a custom harness that will consist of a Proarmor Kill Switch (On-Off Switch), KX style "Starter" button (found it at http://www.two-wheels.net/DBhndbarcat.htm) and connect the lights to be on permanent high beam.

If anyoune finds the proper harness connectors, can you post it? It has been a week and i still cant find the correct connectors.

Cheers.

PS. Keep it on all Fours

 

[thumper450]

Hey I removed all my junk too but I left the clutch wires attached....Did you just splice those two together or how do you bypass it? I wanna get rid of that too. Later.

 

[NDpredator]

I also removed all that junk and just have the dirt bike kill switch for my starter. For the clutch bypass just splice those 2 wires together and you'll be good to go.

//derrick//