lol hey FUEL, maybe its better to let him TRY IT OUT and then see what he has to say. Like I have said many times before, we are not hard riders, and Im SURE these shocks with the epic a-arms will be fine. If you cant agree with anything I say/my bro does, just dont bother coming in to my topics. I know as well as the rest of the people on this site does, you know A LOT about quad! but just let my brother try this out for himself, and see what HE thinks for once. If all we did was listen to you, we would be dead BROKE by now, because everything you say to buy is about twice the amount of what we were gonna spend in the first place. Me and my brother work full time in the summer just to pay off our quads, and to put some aftermarket shit on them, maybe we dont feel like buying top of the line, longtravel shocks and a-arms.